Simu Liu has opened up about his favourite off day activity.

Speaking with People Magazine, the actor admitted he loves doing sports-related activity on perfect day off.

Liu said of his perfect day off, “It’s definitely days spent with friends doing something not even remotely related to movies or movie-making.”

Adding, “I’m getting into a lot of racket sports.”

“I’ve become really obsessed with paddle ball,” the In Your Dreams star admitted.

However, Liu revealed that he’s not the only one obsessed with paddle ball. “I’ve done a lot of filming in Europe these past few years, and everyone that I’ve worked with — whether it’s Woody Harrelson or James Marsden — a lot of people coming in and out of these productions are like, ‘Have you heard of paddle? You’re gonna play.'”

“They’ll drag me to the courts, and I’ll just have the best time,” the Barbie actor added.

On the professional front, Simu Liu has multiple projects lineup, including Netflix’s In Your Dreams, released on November 14, where the actor does voice acting and Marvel’s Avengers: Doomsday, where he reprises his MCU role, set to release in December 2026.

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In “Defying Gravity: The Creative Career of Stephen Schwartz, from Godspell to Wicked“ (published by Applause Books), biographer Carol de Giere explores the life and work of the Grammy- and Oscar-winning composer of treasured Broadway and movie hits.

Read an excerpt below, in which Schwartz finds the inspiration of what will become his most successful musical production to date, when he discovers Gregory Maguire’s prequel to L. Frank Baum’s “The Wonderful Wizard of Oz” – the genesis of the long-running Broadway musical “Wicked.”

And don’t miss Mo Rocca’s interview with Stephen Schwartz on “CBS Sunday Morning” November 16!

“Defying Gravity” by Carol de Giere

Landing in Oz

“It’s time to trust my instincts, close my eyes and leap!” —Wicked 

     
At the start of 1996, Stephen Schwartz never imagined he would end the year envisioning his next Broadway musical, Wicked. Movie songwriting seemed to be his future, especially after one eventful evening in March. He donned his newly-purchased black tuxedo and white silk dress shirt, strode across the red carpet, and met up with his Pocahontas writing partner Alan Menken at Los Angeles’ Dorothy Chandler Pavilion. For forty-eight-year-old Schwartz, being nominated for an Academy Award was a welcome twist on his childhood dream of writing musicals for the stage. With his parents and wife in the audience, he waited for the announcement.

“And the Oscar for Best Original Musical or Comedy Score goes to…” An expectant silence settled in the hall while presenter Quincy Jones opened the envelope.

“Alan Menken, musical and orchestral score, and Stephen Schwartz, lyrics, for Pocahontas.” Applause burst out while the pair made their way to the stage. As Menken thanked their Pocahontas music team, Schwartz clutched his golden statuette and smiled, looking down at Mel Gibson in the front row making funny faces at him and soaking in the acknowledgment from Hollywood. That evening he and Menken also stepped up to accept the award for Best Original Song, “Colors of the Wind.”

Back home in Connecticut, he placed his gold-plated statuettes beside his Grammy gramophones in a trophy case converted from an aquarium that his kids no longer used.

The rest of the year was a busy one, with the premiere of The Hunchback of Notre Dame and early work on The Prince of Egypt involving meetings with the DreamWorks team and the writing and demo-ing of songs. He was also working on an early production of a revue musical Snapshots in Seattle, confident that when finally finished, the show would go direct to stock and amateur licensing rather than to a commercial production. The one thing he was emphatically not doing was planning anything new for Broadway.

Then towards the end of the year, a phone call came that would change everything. He was in Los Angeles finishing some work on The Prince of Egypt when his long-time buddy, songwriter John Bucchino, called him from the island of Maui in Hawaii. Singer-songwriter Holly Near had hired Bucchino as a piano accompanist for her performances at a conference at the tropical getaway. Once on Maui, Bucchino decided it was too good not to share. His room included an extra bed, and he had a car and free food. “If you can cash in some frequent flyer miles and come for the weekend, you’ll have a free vacation in Hawaii,” Bucchino offered.

“Why not?” thought Schwartz. He had the weekend free, and after all, it was Hawaii. “I am so there,” came Schwartz’s answer from LA, and by December 16th, he was.

When Bucchino and Near had a block of time away from the stage, they organized a snorkeling adventure with Schwartz and Near’s friend, Pat Hunt. A small boat sped them over to Molikini, a mostly submerged volcanic crater popular for its rainbow spread of sea creatures that delight snorkelers.

On the trip back, Holly casually mentioned to Stephen, “I’m reading this really interesting book called Wicked, by Gregory Maguire.”

The novel’s title sounded intriguing. “I think I’ve heard of it. What’s it about?” he inquired.

“It’s the Oz story from the Wicked Witch of the West’s point of view.”

In an instant, Schwartz’s imagination flashed through the implications of a backstory for The Wizard of Oz told from the perspective of the unpopular witch. His reaction was visceral: “All the hairs on my arms stood on end,” he recalls. “I thought it was the best idea for a musical I had ever heard.”

As soon as he returned to his LA apartment, he called his attorney in New York, inquiring about Maguire’s 1995 novel Wicked: The Life and Times of the Wicked Witch of the West. “Okay, this book has been out for a while, so somebody has the rights. I need you to find out who has them. Meanwhile, I’m going to get the book and read it, because I think I have to do this.”

There was no way around it. This was a Broadway concept not suited to a small-budget theater company. And he knew it was a highly theatrical idea, not one meant for film or television. Although he had firmly decided, indeed pledged, never to work on Broadway again, his instincts didn’t leave him a choice.

But with such a popular novel, surely someone in Hollywood was converting it to the silver screen. Schwartz would have to stop them, and somehow inspire the rights holders to consider instead the risky, expensive, and time-consuming venture of producing a musical in New York City.

While his attorney, Nancy Rose, followed clues on the rights trail, Wicked‘s prospective composer-lyricist read the novel and confirmed that his hunch had been right: musicalizing the Wicked Witch’s story seemed “quintessentially an idea for me,” meaningful enough to be worth the potential struggle.

For one thing, he loved looking at traditional stories from a new angle. When he was in college he saw Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead, Tom Stoppard’s play in which two minor characters in Shakespeare’s Hamlet are made the central characters. “It was a revelation to me,” he recalls. “From that point on, the idea of looking at familiar material from an unfamiliar point of view became a goal for my own work.” Godspell had approached the New Testament in a fresh way, Children of Eden reworked Genesis for a new take on family life, and The Prince of Egypt explored the Exodus story from the standpoint of the brother relationship between Moses and Ramses. But Gregory Maguire’s twist on The Wizard of Oz was a chance to do something more directly like the Rosencrantz and Guildenstern concept. “I recognized immediately that this was a genius idea and that it was an idea for me: the way it took a familiar subject and spun it,” Schwartz recalls.

Wicked also felt inherently musical to him. “Elphaba is a very musical character with big emotions. She is fantastical. The world is fantastical. Glinda is very musical.” To him it was clear that the world of musical theater was where the story belonged.

And then there was the character Maguire’s vision had moved to the center of the story: Elphaba, the quirky and misunderstood green girl who becomes the Wicked Witch of the West. Maguire named her after L. Frank Baum, who penned The Wonderful Wizard of Oz, when he pondered the sound of the author’s initials “eL” “Fa” “Ba.” Elphaba’s story seemed close to Schwartz’s own emotional experience. He knew what it felt like to be “green” and what inner resources are needed to carry on with life. “The idea of the story created a sympathetic resonance in me,” Schwartz affirms, “and I know that I’m not alone. Anyone who is an artist in our society is going to identify with Elphaba. Anyone who is of an ethnic minority, who is black or Jewish or gay, or a woman feeling she grew up in a man’s world, or anyone who grew up feeling a dissonance between who they are inside and the world around them, will identify with Elphaba. Since that’s so many of us, I think there will be a lot of people who will.”

“There were things that I knew right away. I knew how it was going to begin, I knew how it was going to end, I knew who Elphaba was, and I knew why— on some strange level—this was autobiographical even though it was about a green girl in Oz.” —Stephen Schwartz

Schwartz bought a spiral notebook in which he would capture all his story and lyric ideas—snatches of inspiration, research notes, lists of rhyming words, first drafts of lyric lines, and later drafts. On the black cover, the manufacturer’s slogan, “Five Star—In a Class By Itself,” hinted at what would become of the musical that began as penciled scrawls on the lined pages.

Maguire had created, as the author himself described it, a dense, almost nineteenth-century-type novel that takes place over thirty-eight years and has thirty-eight speaking parts. Could any group of musical collaborators successfully distill these ingredients into a viable evening of theater?

From “Defying Gravity: The Creative Career of Stephen Schwartz, from Godspell to Wicked (second edition)” by Carol de Giere. © 2018 by Carol de Giere. Published by Applause Books. Reprinted by permission. 

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Not long ago in Seattle, an astronomical event of sorts happened: Two superstars collided. William Shatner, of “Star Trek” fame, and Neil deGrasse Tyson, America’s favorite astrophysicist, took to the stage to explore the nature of exploration. Think of it as sort of Martin & Lewis, but with more quantum mechanics.

“It’s a bromance,” said Tyson. “I think what Bill Shatner and I have together should be the textbook definition of the bromance.”

“If we have a bromance,” said Shatner, “I’d be very privileged.”

The two grew close last year on an upscale cruise to Antarctica, where they ended up being the after-dinner entertainment. “The organizer said, ‘Why don’t we put the two of you on this mini-stage that they have on the ship, and we just chew the fat?'” said Tyson. “And then the organizer said, ‘Why don’t you guys take this on the road?'”

Their first port of call? Seattle, where they debuted a wide-ranging, sometimes meandering, but always intriguing stage show they’re calling “The Universe Is Absurd!”

When Shatner asked his partner for a sound bite, deGrasse Tyson solicited a suggestion from the audience: “Pick anything out of the universe. Go. Anything. Doesn’t matter.”

“Pluto!” yelled one enthusiastic audience member.

DeGrasse Tyson obliged: “More than half of Pluto is made of ice, so that, if it were where Earth is right now, heat from the Sun would evaporate that ice and it would grow a tail. And that is no kind of behavior for a planet!” Mic drop. “That’s a sound bite!”

For deGrasse Tyson, director of New York City’s Hayden Planetarium, and an authority on just about everything we know about the universe, it’s a chance to get inside the insatiably curious mind of the 94-year-old Shatner. “What kind of magic potion is he drinking?” deGrasse Tyson laughed. “By the way, you can do the math, he’s been alive for three billion seconds, okay? I did the math, you don’t have to. So when Bill Shatner speaks, it’s coming from a place way deeper than any of the rest of us can possibly match.”

And for Shatner, who never formally studied astrophysics, it’s a chance to make up for what he sees as lost time. “I feel bad about it, because that knowledge of what constitutes the construction of nature, we know so little, but the little we know is so awesome, it’s so spellbinding,” he said. “The fact that I wasn’t conscious of how spellbinding it is as a youth, I could have been much more educated about it.”

Four years ago, Shatner became the oldest person ever to go into space, and he’s been globetrotting ever since.

Shatner asked deGrasse Tyson, “Do you still scratch your head in awe?”

“Every night I look up,” he replied.

So, is this the dynamic between the two – Shatner with questions, deGrasse Tyson with answers? “Unfortunately, that’s the way it is,” Shatner replied.

“No, but he’s got wisdom and life experience that I value, and I respect,” deGrasse Tyson added. “So, I’m here to grab some of that.”

As for Shatner’s take on deGrasse Tyson, “He has access, both because of his mentality, and the books and the studies, so he’s into modern-day mysticism, which is the study of the stars and how it works and what goes on.”

“You call that modern-day mysticism?” deGrasse Tyson asked.

“Because you don’t know for sure that what you’re saying is absolutely truth until more experimentation.”

“That’s the frontier. We’re scratching our heads.”

“Exactly,” said Shatner. “So, he is an explorer. He is an explorer. He is on that verge. He teaches that. And it is mystical in every sense of the word.”

I asked, “This is where I think you are politely and respectfully in disagreement, because Dr. deGrasse Tyson will say something like, ‘We know what the speed of light is and what the fastest things can move is.’ And you say, ‘Well, we’ll see about that!'”

“Yeah, we’ve had that argument,” said Shatner. 

DeGrasse Tyson seems just fine not knowing everything – for example, what was going on before the Big Bang, and the profound idea of somethingness coming from nothingness. “We don’t know. Next question!” he said. “No, as a scientist, you need to be comfortable in the presence of a question that does not yet have an answer.”

Of course, the ultimate question, the one we really don’t know definitively, is where we go when we die, something that Shatner, as he loses friends and colleagues, finds himself considering more often. “You know, I vary between the fear of death, my fear,” he said. But, “I have so much love around me. I have a wife, and children, and grandchildren. I even have two great-grandchildren. And I have two great dogs. I’ve had dogs all my life, all my adult life. And so, all my life is fertile, is vibrant. And I don’t want to leave it. And that’s the sadness. I don’t want to go.”

“Are you curious, though, about what you will find out?” I asked.

“Not enough to die!” he laughed.

“Even your curiosity has a limit?”

“Right. It stops right there!”

So, William Shatner’s famous curiosity bumps up against the edge of his universe. And as the show wrapped up in Seattle, Shatner closed things out with one of his unique spoken-word songs, accompanied by trumpeter Keyon Harrold. 

Do not grow old
no matter how long you live.
Do not forget pain
but somehow learn to forgive.

The universe, it turns out, might be a bit absurd, but what an interesting ride!

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Story produced by Anthony Laudato. Editor: Karen Brenner.